96 thoughts on “The Digital XPan with the 30mm Hasselblad XPan lens”

  1. Great video on the subject! Price point still the main issue it seems haha. I suppose the GFX 50R is a lot more versatile than the XPan so this makes the sticker shock more justified.

  2. List of digital cameras with 65:24 aspect ratio in camera:
    GFX50S
    GFX50R
    GFX100
    X1D
    X1D II
    Panasonic S1R
    Panasonic S1
    Sigma FP (at least a close one)

    I think the cheapest capable camera for 65:24 aspect ratio is the Panasonic S1. You also have the ability to use some fast wide angles in the system, which in my opinion lend themself perfectly for panorama photography

  3. Unfortunately im not very knowledgeable on panoramic in general. I mean the most exposure I had was a point and shoot film camera that had a panoramic mode that I found purely by accident when I was like 11. Maybe that might be an idea for another video and sort of an enabler to you looking for that lens that you want. Hopefully I explained that with some clarity but im sure im not the only one who got left in the dark as far as panoramas are concerned and most people who talk tech camera settings dont even mention panoramas so just an idea. I dont know of any lenses that might work for what you are trying to do but surely there has to be some sort of adapter or speedbooster that would work out for what you want. If it were me id say what about either a medium format lens adapted for the fuji apsc cameras or maybe a 35mm panoramic lens speedboosted for use with fuji apsc. I dont know anything about tilt shift lenses either but maybe those could help somehow? Sorry im still just working in manual mode trying to get exposure right so my knowledge is limited in a lot of areas.

  4. U mean that you have frame lines for 65-24 in the viewfinder?
    Wohooo that’s amazing, love it.

    Thumbs up from Sweden 🇸🇪
    //freddie

  5. The 46.9mm diagonal in 65:24 crop the GFX 50R has is just a tiny bit wider than the 43.3mm image circle FF has. So many FF lenses should work without any issue on the GFX50R in "XPAN" mode. (They often do even in 4:3 mode)
    So my suggestion would be to just use a fast 28 or 35mm FF lens to get your 24mm equiv in XPAN mode. There are many options, both far cheaper and faster than what you will find in the MF options

  6. Andrew, I won't be buying this setup probably ever but I've always been intrigued by the X-Pan and panoramic shooting. My question to you is can this be simulated in camera on any of the Fujifilm APS-C cameras like the X-E3, X-T3 or X-Pro 3? Can it be down with standard lens in a way that doesn't take away from resolution if cropping is necessary which I'm sure it will be. Simply curious.

  7. Great video! However, I've shot the 30mm on my X-Pan and it's a dream lens but on a digital camera like the Fuji it's not that wide. On a real X-Pan it's 50% wider which is a huge difference. There is no way around it, you need a real X-Pan. 😀

  8. There's not a single day that I don't carry my xpan around with me. I've also seen the world as a movie so having a camera that helps me frame life in a similar vein is just the best. Worth the price really. Thanks for the tip, it'd be nice to have a digital camera that offers the same panoramic field of view. I'll just want until the price on this goes way way way down.

  9. so fuji makes the TX-1 body while hassel makes the lens? or does fuji have their own lens for the TX-1 camera?

    certainly hope that the rumors of a digital xpan comes true, that would really hit the camera fans by storm haha

    even though i too fell in love with the X-PAN crop , over all I recognize that i could use the same amount of money buying a GFX 50R + 50mm f3.5 being able to do a wider variety of photos compared to only doing xpan style shots on film.

  10. Brilliant. I'll try some contax and Voigt wide angles to see what might work with useable vignetting…gotta get me some adapters. Awesome video.

  11. Fujifilm, please make an Analog/Film GFX 50R, you have the lenses and the film stock! 🙂
    And bring back Provia 400!!!!
    <3

  12. What a coincidence, I just did a few 65:24 digital crops today and I love the results but I have to say for fast paced shooting it's safer for me to have the full picture and crop later than to set it in-camera. Oh I see the raw file can be uncropped.

  13. great options in the pentax lineup…

    thanks for NOT encouraging your subscribers to acquire this gem, it's probably not a good idea to send the horde off to keh to deplete the already diminutive supply… LOL

  14. I’ve always liked those panoramic cameras myself, but unfortunately the cost is too much for me. Plus my eyes don’t focus with manual lenses too well. Old age. 😟

  15. I hear people say that Fuji made the XPAN lenses all the time and yet Hasselblad says Nittoh made them… and are now making their new XCD lenses as well

  16. Andrew: I have been using an adapted Pentax-A 645 35mm f3.5 on my GFX 50s for about a year now (since Fujifilm hasn’t had a prime in that range.) I don’t think the lens itself is much bigger than the one in the video but the adapter certainly is (these lenses obviously sat further away from the film plane than the xpan.) It focuses pretty close (30cm) and my copy is nicely sharp wide open. Yes, it is a 28mm equivalent on the GFX vs 24mm… I find that to not be a big difference but you may feel different. After your first video about xpan alternatives I was inspired to shoot it on the gfx with the 65:24 crop and have had a lot of fun with it. I got mine for about $400 a few years ago plus the adapter which is around $100. The bonus is that once you have the adapter, many of the Pentax 645 (and 6×7 lenses) work really nicely on the GFX and are not too expensive. Sorry for the long post but hopefully it provides something useful.

  17. Great vid. For long distance shots, any camera can give you the 65-24 aspect ratio look with a crop in post. Distance will level the playing field with all sensors/neagatives. But there is a sweet spot where a 65mm width of film/digital sensor (or larger)…will give you a special look. It's the look of being wide angle, yet having no wide angle distortion. Perfect for vlogging, BTW. This look is also much better than the more famous anamorphic lens look, which only has horizontal flare going for it.  

    The original 45mm F4 Xpan lens had this special look of being really wide, yet not distorted. Portraits were the best use of this lens and the special look. It created a surreal portrait. But you had to be just the right distance to the subject, in order to trigger the look. And you needed other elements in the scene that were at the right distance from the subject, to trigger the look. And bokeh wasn't your friend because then you would remove the relationship between the subject and the scene behind/around them. If you got it right, then the image really looked very different and otherworldly. If you shot someone standing in front of a plain white wall with an original Xpan and a 45mm F4, it wouldn't trigger the look.  

    One could argue that the 90mm F4 Xpan would be even better to create a surreal look. But then you would get too much compression. I think about 70mm would be the sweet spot for human faces. It would trigger "the look" and not introduce too much distortion of any kind. With a full frame 35mm width digital sensor, the only practical way to mimic the X-Pan look is to use a 50-70mm full frame lens. Then figure out the trigger distance/scene setup for the look. Make sure the light is even throughout the scene. Then take one normal shot of a person with them in the middle of the frame. Then turn your body slightly to the left or right. Then shoot another picture of the scene only. Then sew the images together in post. If the person remains static and you turn your body just right. And you have good software to sew the images together…you get a pretty close approximation to the look. But you can only do static portraits and you have to get all your trigger distances just right.  

    If you shoot still life or architecture, then you can use this technique all you want. But it's such a pain in the ass that it's not really worth it…especially for portraits. Portraits are about capturing a moment. And that means the only practical solution is a digital X-pan with a proper 65mm sensor. And even then, you need the trigger distances or you don't get the look.  

    Most people who want an X-Pan, really have no idea what they want because they don't really know what medium format is. These people are just gear heads who like numbers. There are very few artists out there who understand what medium format or large format, and have a solid opinion on it. These large formats are not about image quality. That wasn't their strong suite. It was about the size of the negative/sensor and how it could be manipulated to create "a look" that could not be easily replicated any other way. To be fair, the only other thing that a big negative/sensor could create…is tonality. Especially color tonality. It's hard to describe it, but colors looked special. Very smooth. It's hard to duplicate this look with smaller sensors/negatives. Even the original X-pan was in danger of not being big enough to trigger the special tonality because it was just 35x24mm film stock. I'm not sure what the sweet spot dimensions for this special tonality are, but bigger is usually better.

  18. Thank you for the video, it inspired me to try the XPan crop on some of my previous photos and it's really fun to play with!

  19. Great video! This subject has been in my thoughts a lot recently as I'm considering the GFX 50R. I had an XPan II with all three lenses – sold in mint condition back in 2007…what was I thinking??!! The XPros always reminded me of the feel of the XPan so I've loved shooting with Fuji X cameras for years now. You are so right about the process of composing with a 65 x 24 ratio viewfinder. Nothing beats the XPan for its viewfinder and compact size, but I'm truly excited about the quality of the GFX images….especially with the announcement of the GF 30mm lens (equivalent to the XPan 45mm in pano mode).

  20. The most convincing presentation of a digital medium format camera I've ever seen! You and the true panoramic format produce amazing photos

  21. Wow never even thot this lens could be used on a digital camera. Fuji! If you make a modern version of this lens for your cameras, think of the fans who would absolutely have to buy 1 of ur GFX cameras! Manual focus would be even better, to keep cost down.

  22. Thats awesome, I love this aspect ratio. I think you could try some 28mm old full frame lenses like canon FD, I think there is very good chance of covering whole GFX medium format sensor (especially cropped to x-pan ratio) which is much smaller than medium format film really was. I am just wandering that something similar would be easily achievable with something like Samyang 12mm f2 even on aps-c just if your camera supports that crop for jpeg. Mine doesnt 🙁

  23. Pardon me for saying this, but this is entirely built on emotion, when you can get the same images from a (ultra) wide angle and then just crop top & bottom. Basic physics tell us that your perspective is based on the observer to subject distance only. You then pick a lens which captures the required angle of (horizontal) view and take the picture. You can, if you wish, crop the result in post. QED. For "collectors" who pay through the nose just to get anything that unique(-ish), this might have value, but if photography is the aim, then this is totally unnecessary, IMHO.

  24. Definitely the spiritual successor to the Fuji TX-1. They even look kinda similar. I regret not buying one too😖

  25. Great video dude.

    If u interested u can try to check out one weird soviet lens- Зодиак-8б also known as Zodiak-8 and Arsat-8. It’s a 30/3.5 medium format fisheye lens for soviet bayonet «Б» which is literally pentacon-six, so there are some adapters to gfx. The lens itself is completely terrible and at the same time VERY fun to use.

    Idk about usa, but here in russia they can be taken for about 100-150$, not so much I think)

  26. You should talk about considering the xt3 with the fuji 14 or 16 as an alternative, but man that 24×65 in camera crop is sooo nice! Damn

  27. They need this feature in other xt cameras IMO. For pano option, I was also looking into the anamorphic lens, if fuji adds desqueezing in camera so you can save a bit loss on vertical FOV. Otherwise, just use your brain to think in that way and do the crop in post.

  28. Dammit. This whet my appetite to go out and shoot pano crop today on my T2, even if I have to shoot 16:9 in the evf. Guess I'm going to buy a brick of some description.

  29. Lots of happy nostalgia in your video for me – the XPan was my favourite camera/lens combo back in film days – something magic about the came/lens combo. People forget just how 'high end' Fuji were back in film days with their studio cameras and lenses -great company. I believe that Hasselblad discontinued XPan because of mercury soldering issue in bodies against some EEU rules…they are still not forgiven for that..-:)

    The in-camera (viewfinder) crop for the JPG files is a great compositional aid so that you get what you are seeing in the frame- the XID has the same function and my Leica SLs only have the 3:1 ratio which is a tad too long for cinematic composition but better than nothing. The one trick I picked up whilst using the XPan was to have subject close to lens and let the environment surround it on a side or either side..almost anamorphic the effect

    Surprised you are still using LR for Fuji files.
    Thanks again
    Pete

  30. I wish Fujifilm would put this same crop in the menu of their APS-C cameras. Sure the MP drop is substantial, but it would be nice to have option.

  31. I loved my Expan but alas I had to let it go for “life reasons” – it’s with Bellamy the Japanese camera hunter for sale right now as a complete set with 30mm, 45mm and 90mm – and much more affordable than you’d expect, spoil yourself with the real thing! $8.5k complete!

  32. You can do the focal reducer and Pentax 67 or Hasselblad 500 lens combo. It'll get you pretty close to film MF in terms of FOV.

  33. Ebay has Fuji' own lens for sale which is of course identical – unsure if its the sem mount though – anyone know? Also – what the fruit is that adaptor – we need to know – and we need to know now.Just a quick correction 'centre' filters allow for exposure loss rather than vignetting – although it could be argued that the results are identical – I know nitpicky – but great review nonetheless – and if you ever get your hands on a 6X17 then those filters are essential

  34. Try the Mamiya 645 35mm f/3.5 lens.
    I use one with a tilt-shift adapter for a lot of product work and it's great!

  35. i would say yeah same same but different 🙂 nothing beats shooting with a real xpan, love that rangefinder in the camera and the smile when you get your scans back.i dont have an adapter , but would love to try my 45mm xpan lens on my 50s

  36. While not a prime, my Sigma ART 24 – 35 f2 with Techart GFX adaptor is a great wide-angle lens for my 50R , allowing me to do my day to dayphotojournalism and documentary work. I avoid the wider apertures but from f4 it is very detailed and paints a really nice picture. It is nowhere near as sexy as the XPan lens but it would work well, especially at 26mm where it will be the equivalent of the 30mm on the 645 format (by my seat of the pants reckoning). I'm heading out now to experiment with 65:24 for the first time!

  37. The older Nikon (Nikkor) shift lenses in 28mm and 35mm will cover 6×4,5 film, so they should easily handle medium format digital.

  38. I am wondering did you need an adapter for this liens that you are using on the GX50R and since I have a Pentax 6 x 7 with lenses. Can the Pentax 6 x 7 Lance be used on the GFX50R with an adapter.

  39. Great video, thanks for making & sharing!

    Like you, I desire an xpan, but what puts me off is the spares/repair ability should something go wrong with an old expensive xpan (& I’ve read that there is a weakness in the drive system that is prone to failure), that & the realisation that I don’t relish going back to film & the need to finish a roll then develop it prior to obtaining the results….I’ve had a roll in an old Canon 7 Rangefinder for a while now waiting to finish off!

    So like you, I’ve concluded that the 50r is the new digital xpan & I want one! Hence why your video appealed to much. I’ve been looking for videos or websites using the 50r specifically as an xpan and found little, then saw your video as a thumb nail to the right of my YouTube window while search for something else, and immediately jumped to your vid!

    In the vid, you mentioned you liked the Hasselblad 30mm & were looking forward to the Fuji GF 30mm, because 30mm gives the equivalent on the GFX of 24mm which you like. That’s only partially true I think – the 30mm gives a field of view equivalent to ~24mm on 35mm film/FF sensor, but the perspective or relative size of objects near to the lens vs mid ground vs distance is unchanged.

    As for lens suggestions, I’ll share some observations I’ve had with you. On 35mm/FF my personal wide angle sweet spot is 24mm. With a 24mm you get the dramatic wide angle perspective, but it is not so exaggerated that the far distance is so small that it’s lost in the photo. I used a 17-35mm zoom for a while in the past and over time I noticed that at the 17mm end the perspective was heavily tilted toward foreground interest at the expense of the distance, but I appreciated the field of view the 17mm gave. So there are two things going on with a wide angle lens – the field of view it gives & separately, the perspective or ‘balance’ between foreground/mid ground/distance. I’ve come to realise that a 24mm on a GFX would maintain the perspective balance I want (which doesn’t change with sensor crop factor) , while giving a field of view (which does change with sensor crop factor) closer to a 19mm….best of both worlds, to me at least. So with that in mind, my plan is to use a Canon 24 TSE ii on the GFX.

  40. Hello
    I have the X-Pan II with the 3 lenses since his release and use it still today.
    I have also a X1D with the X-Pan adapter.
    the X-Pan 45mm and 90mm have poor results on the X1D digital sensor but are superb on the x-Pan.
    The X-Pan 30mm that is exceptional on the X-Pan is OK in the center of the X1D, but only acceptable in the corners, the Hasselblad lenses for the X1D are way better today.
    For me using the X-Pan lenses on the digital sensor is a quality no-go, they are lenses made for film where they are excellent.

  41. Great video! If this setup gave you a lot of satisfaction, the real thing will give you more. Please note that the Xpan allows you to alternate between 2×3 or panoramic format throughout the 35mm roll. You are not only limited to panoramic format.

  42. This content is some of that next level, hipster crack. 🤓 You're becoming somewhat of a gateway for some seriously dangerous rabbit holes (financially speaking 😅). It's a slippery slope. I know from experience. 💸

  43. I'm failing to see the point of your exercise. You are using a lens that ends up cropped even on a MF camera. Why not just use a modern Fuji/Hassy wide angle lens with the pano crop activated? You will most likely get higher image quality, as is usually the case when adapting lenses from different systems. That XPan lens is not even cheap..

    So what is the point? Is it the nostalgia of reminding yourself of shooting an analog camera? Man, you have a cutting edge MF camera that few people are lucky enough to shoot with and you end up trying to make it into an XPan… Or was all of this just an interesting advertisement for KEH? What am I missing here? 😀

  44. Don’t forget that Hasselblad X1D and X1Dii has leaf shutter in the lens and not a planar shutter like Fuji’s. That’s another reason why Fuji is a better digital alternative for these lenses.

  45. The best film alternative for the XPAN is the Mamiya 6MF with a 35mm converter kit. The lenses are superb, the setup is compact and the viewfinder gives you framelines for 35mm. The ratios are also almost exactly what they shoot most movies in, which is pretty cool. Cool video, btw!

  46. Great video. I love my TX1. I have written about using the 45/4 on my GFX a couple of times. A great setup, but you need the 30mm to get a similar FOV as the 45/TX1 combo. Again. Great video, and great shots.

  47. Coming back to this amazing review – I wonder how your monster would match with a tilt shift lens. The slr ones like Rokinon, Nikkor or Canon come with a wider image circle. Having a 17, 19 or 24 mm on medium format will offer a nice super- wide angle, on top of the incredible creative potential

  48. Hi, I'd like to know how the x1D and the 50R compare in terms of design in your opinion. I've only had in my hands the 50R but lookind at the x1D it seems to make much more sense: the body is much smaller and thiner while having a much larger grip. What do you think are the reasons for fuji to make their small MF camera such a "large brick", when it seems they could have gone much smaller, cause even stetically, I don't think the 50R looks that good (like the xpro does,for instance). Thanks and keep doing these kind of videos 🙂

  49. I hope my XPan will last still for a very long time, but in case it will break somehow, it's goot to know there is an alternative out there so at least I can use the lenses.
    When you set 24×65 in the menu, do you then see in that aspect ratio in the viewfinder/display, right?

  50. Hello. Very interesting video.
    Like many others, I've always regretted selling my X-pan — but the reasons for selling seemed logical at the time.
    Re. lenses: have you thought of the Pentax A 35mm f3.5 SMC lens for the 645 system? It is reportedly a very sharp lens, with an angle of view of 27.65mm on GFX; quite close to your favourite 24mm equivalent. There are many copies in Japan & just a handful here in Europe, where they go for approx 570 Euros for a good copy.
    Regards.

  51. Definitely not by far, the X-pro 1 is the coldest Fuji has got so far to making a digital X-Blad camera body that can not only make the film look that we all love, but gives the photographer the film camera touch in there hands!!!
    I’v worked mostly with 35mm film and dislike using digital photography cameras apart from the X/M/CF camera Systems!!!

  52. not sure if anyone mentioend it yet, but the Nikkor 28mm f/3.5 PC Ai-S Lens is a good and cheap alternative to the Xpan 30mm.
    didn't know the GFX50R had a xpan crop factor, this camera has moved up on my wish list now as I miss shooting with the Xpan.

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